Maybe we finally discuss joy in this episode.
DBHart writes about 'bliss/ananda at some length in 'The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss.'
'And in the transcendental structure of consciousness we are confronted
by the presence of the absolute within even the most ordinary
acts of mind and will, and we find that the extraordinary
joys of which rational intellect is capable (whose shadow side are
equally extraordinary sorrows) far exceed what nature can adumbrate
or warrant; here too we are placed before a reality that is
logically prior to and transcendent of the intelligible configurations
of nature. And in finding an indissoluble interconnectedness
in all three of these realities taken together, we come upon the
supreme mystery of all experience.
I agree; he does say things in complicated ways however.
I think there are questions about the nature of joy. True joy is a fundamental, not exceptional, state; and in its natural or “pure” form it has qualities outside our ordinary understanding of the word.
Yes. Sat, Chit, Ananda.
Just been reminded of this interview with Alexandre de Salzmann Jnr:
https://www.gurdjieff.org/salzmann-alex1.htm
I saw him once, decades ago, in a meeting with Pauline
Good episode - our natural inclination is toward beauty, truth and goodness (the 'Transcendentals')...but it does need a bit of 'work' :)
Yes, but that chapter is on the whole clarifying...about the nature of God and our relationship to it...Sat, Chit, Ananda...
DBHart writes about 'bliss/ananda at some length in 'The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss.'
'And in the transcendental structure of consciousness we are confronted
by the presence of the absolute within even the most ordinary
acts of mind and will, and we find that the extraordinary
joys of which rational intellect is capable (whose shadow side are
equally extraordinary sorrows) far exceed what nature can adumbrate
or warrant; here too we are placed before a reality that is
logically prior to and transcendent of the intelligible configurations
of nature. And in finding an indissoluble interconnectedness
in all three of these realities taken together, we come upon the
supreme mystery of all experience.
I agree; he does say things in complicated ways however.
I think there are questions about the nature of joy. True joy is a fundamental, not exceptional, state; and in its natural or “pure” form it has qualities outside our ordinary understanding of the word.
Yes. Sat, Chit, Ananda.
Just been reminded of this interview with Alexandre de Salzmann Jnr:
https://www.gurdjieff.org/salzmann-alex1.htm
I saw him once, decades ago, in a meeting with Pauline
Good episode - our natural inclination is toward beauty, truth and goodness (the 'Transcendentals')...but it does need a bit of 'work' :)
Yes, but that chapter is on the whole clarifying...about the nature of God and our relationship to it...Sat, Chit, Ananda...